| Even if you are married, if it's not consensual, it's rape. |
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Wretch said: Even if you are married, if it's not consensual, it's rape. How can there be rape between two loving couples ? Will it extend to Lesbians  Marriage is a way to legalize the sexual urges of Humans ^_^ or is it not ? |
KaulDeva said: Not all couples are loving. Sometimes marriage fails, and sometimes the person you marry is not quite how you thought they were. Some beat up their wives, some cheat on their husbands... things like this happen.Wretch said: Even if you are married, if it's not consensual, it's rape. How can there be rape between two loving couples ? Will it extend to Lesbians Marriage is a way to legalize the sexual urges of Humans ^_^ or is it not ? I have personally heard of a husband who came home drunk and raped their wife whom he mistreated anyway day after day, and she only stayed with him because of the kids. I think she should just divorce, that would be better option for the kids too. |
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| As far as I'm concerned, if someone has sex with someone else involuntarily, regardless of their relationship, it's rape. |
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Wretch said: KaulDeva said: Not all couples are loving. Sometimes marriage fails, and sometimes the person you marry is not quite how you thought they were. Some beat up their wives, some cheat on their husbands... things like this happen.How can there be rape between two loving couples ? Will it extend to Lesbians Marriage is a way to legalize the sexual urges of Humans ^_^ or is it not ? I have personally heard of a husband who came home drunk and raped their wife whom he mistreated anyway day after day, and she only stayed with him because of the kids. I think she should just divorce, that would be better option for the kids too. Those kinds must be punished under Domestic Violence and Rape . Should the women be forced to divorce or not , I can't say much . Should be left to the person concerned to decide . I too have heard of such cases . razortongue said: As far as I'm concerned, if someone has sex with someone else involuntarily, regardless of their relationship, it's rape. Not my view/comment but more or less I agree with it "Personally, I find the term "marital rape" demeaning to the bond of marriage. It is better to perceive the act of forceful intercourse in marriage as a form of ABUSE." @Wretch |
KaulDevaNov 29, 2016 5:52 AM
| It can happen. If a person is forced to engage in sexual activities against their will, then it is by definition rape. There are also bad marriages where a partner can be subject to abuse, and it is anything but loving. I do believe that marriage is sacred, and that it symbolizes a new stage in one's life, which is why I think that bad husbands and wives are despicable. |
KaulDeva said: That goes without saying.Wretch said: Not all couples are loving. Sometimes marriage fails, and sometimes the person you marry is not quite how you thought they were. Some beat up their wives, some cheat on their husbands... things like this happen. I have personally heard of a husband who came home drunk and raped their wife whom he mistreated anyway day after day, and she only stayed with him because of the kids. I think she should just divorce, that would be better option for the kids too. Those kinds must be punished under Domestic Violence and Rape . Should the women be forced to divorce or not , I can't say much . Should be left to the person concerned to decide . I too have heard of such cases . It's a sad world we live in. Well, martial rape is a thing, just like any rape... It's a punishable act, and should not exist. |
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KaulDeva said: Marriage is a way to legalize the sexual urges of Humans ^_^ or is it not ? This sounds like Tinder should be illegal because there's no contract honored by the government saying, "I give thee permission to fuck" |
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KaulDeva said: If marriages weren't created and evolved over time , We would have to fight each other for the legitimacy or right to Sex just like Animals ^_^ Will that be better ^_^ ??? I really don't know where you're going with this, and if I'm gonna have to take the fall for being labeled retarded, I'll accept that. Not to mention, your smileys really add a real creep value to your posts given the subject matter. |
Just this once, I'll fulfill whatever your wish is. |
Shoryu said: KaulDeva said: If marriages weren't created and evolved over time , We would have to fight each other for the legitimacy or right to Sex just like Animals ^_^ Will that be better ^_^ ??? I really don't know where you're going with this, and if I'm gonna have to take the fall for being labeled retarded, I'll accept that. Not to mention, your smileys really add a real creep value to your posts given the subject matter.  Sorry about that , its a bad habit of mine . Being non serious even in the serious issues . Laughing at the time of showing composure etc .Not taking it any where . Just a passing comment to your observation of " I give thee the permission to fuck " |
| I think you meant 'Marital' there OP, Martial Rape sounds like some weird Chinese porn with martial arts mixed in. OT:I consider it rape even if it's momentary lack of consent between two married people.The least respect you can give your spouse is understanding their decisions, which can also pertain to sex. |
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| Ah, the fresh smell of trollbait... |
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| If you marry someone you're obliged to have regular sex with your partner since you're forbidding them from doing it with anyone else. Sure you can rape your partner but there's honestly a degree of allowance with raping them if they sexually neglect you |
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Look I know you're Indian and I am one as well. The marriage laws in our country regarding marital rape do not exist at all. So it's useless to raise such a topic in here. MANY countries have a legal framework to settle this issue.Marital rape is illegal in 18 American States, 3 Australian States, New Zealand, Canada, Israel, France, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Soviet Union, Poland and Czechoslovakia. Rape in any form is an act of utter humiliation, degradation and violation rather than an outdated concept of penile/vaginal penetration. Restricting an understanding of rape reaffirms the view that rapists treat rape as sex and not violence and hence, condone such behaviour. Section 375, the provision of rape in the Indian Penal Code (IPC), has echoing very archaic sentiments, mentioned as its exception clause- “Sexual intercourse by man with his own wife, the wife not being under 15 years of age, is not rape.” Look mate, not to disrespect your beliefs, your very first statement is kind of controversial. Of course, marital rape is thing which why so many countries condemn it. > Do you see Marriage as Sacred , New stage in life or just a Contract ? > Contract Just stop watching anime now. |
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| If you can't rape your wife, why even marry? like what the fuck is the point of marrying then? |
| Great bait mate but seriously it is not ok taking advantage of your marriage to rape somebody all the time if that's legal anywhere (Probably Islam). |
| The marital rape happens once the divorce proceedings take place. Marital rape probably can occur, especially if proper consent was not even given in the marriage itself. In the end of the day, no means no. If there is any argument to say that there should never be a no is beside the point, and a different argument. No means no. |
| idk about you but the closer a girl gets to looking like ronald mcdonald, the more aroused i become. CAV where can we cast our eyes to @PoruMairu who thinks of himself a member of the true church. Helion. |
| no lol marriage is not cart blanche to fuck your wife if she doesn't want you to. She's not dead to the world just becaues you're hitched, she's still her own person, it's gonna be just like you're dating most of the time |
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| ofc its rape you dimwit smh if you dont have their consent you shouldnt do anything to them!!! |
| Marital murder should only be classified as abuse because I find the term marital murder demeaning to the bond of marriage |
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| Marital rape is a tad worse than rape that happens anytime else since the victim has a much harder time getting out of the relationship due to various factors such as shared finances and kids. |
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| Yes it exists and is rape but sometimes people are pushed to be convinced it is not. What followed was a “violent assault,” Don held back Ana’s arms and began to pull out fistfuls of hair from her scalp. He tore off her clothes and unzipped his pants. “Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ana is terrified… It is a violent assault, according to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, ‘he raped me.’” Following the incident, Ana ran upstairs, hid behind a locked door, and remained there “crying for the rest of night.” When she returned to the master bedroom in the morning, he was there. “As she looks in horror at the ripped-out hair scattered all over the bed, he glares at her and asks with menacing casualness: ‘Does it hurt?’”. “It’s not the word that you’re trying to make it into,” Conner saying Ana was talking about how “she felt raped emotionally… She was not referring to it [as] a criminal matter, and not in its literal sense, though there’s many literal senses to the word.” Conner added that there is no such thing, legally, as a man raping his wife. “You cannot rape your spouse,” he said. “There’s very clear case law.” That is not true. In New York, there used to be a so-called marital rape exemption to the law. It was struck down in 1984. |
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| Yes, marital rape exists. Marriage is a contract and a bad one at that. Two people that are in love know it, they don't need any sort of contract to prove it or tell them that. However, it does make separating a way bigger pain than it would otherwise be. |
KaulDeva said: Wretch said: Even if you are married, if it's not consensual, it's rape. How can there be rape between two loving couples ? Will it extend to Lesbians Marriage is a way to legalize the sexual urges of Humans ^_^ or is it not ? No, marriage is a contract meant to signify the love two people have for each other. At least for the time being, as all things break and decay. If you just want to have sex you obviously don't marry, unless you're a religious nut job. So yes, obviously marital rape exists. If you are forced into having sex when you made it clear you don't want to, or are abused when unconscious its rape. Simple as that. |
| "In this world, evil can arise from the best of intentions. And there is good which can come from evil intentions" |
Wretch said: This. It's just that if you're married, it's much harder to prove.Even if you are married, if it's not consensual, it's rape. |
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Waffly said: So like if your wife is makin some food or somethin and then you go up to her and say 'nah m8 u stop what u doin u wil now give me a bjob' and she says 'na m8 not now' and you still force her to do it without her consent it's rape, no matter if you're married with her or not. Those are the worst kind of people , who destroy sacredness , importance and significance of Marriage . PUNISH THEM ! |
| I know they talk of Martial rape...but isn't that's why your married ...just saying if a man don't fulfill his sexual tendencies he may eventually cheat..... than what's the point |
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| Rape play =/= rape. S&M play stuff is not the same as real, because there is either direct consent, or subliminal consent. |
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ibraheem234 said: I know they talk of Martial rape...but isn't that's why your married ...just saying if a man don't fulfill his sexual tendencies he may eventually cheat..... than what's the point It's true that as partners in marriage, you should assist each other in satisfying those urges but to say that the man may eventually cheat because of that is a bit suspect. Even without someone else, you can always satisfy your urges with masturbation. To force your spouse, who is supposed to be your partner in life, to do things against their will is still morally wrong. If there are problems in a marriage, you should bring it up and discuss them not use force to make them do what you want. Just my 2 cents. |
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| lmao being married to someone doesn't mean you get to put your dick them whenever you feel like it. |
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| It's possible but in most situations it's not as serious as raping someone else. Your spouse is most likely someone you have had sex with multiple times. They are sexually comfortable around you. So raping them isn't nice but they probably won't take it that bad. |
Lux_Lucis said: Trance said: If you can't rape your wife, why even marry? like what the fuck is the point of marrying then? Someone's asking the important questions. It should be added to the list of stuff MAL's yet to deliver a proper answer to: - What bald people use to wash their scalp; soap or shampoo? - Should sucking yourself off be considered gay? - If the temperature outside is 0 and it’s going to be twice as cold tomorrow, how cold will it be? - Vaseline, of course. Why else do you think their baldass shines? - Fuck. I'm gay. - At first I was mindblown, but then I realized that you can exploit the phrasing to answer: Twice as cold as it is today. If we talk in terms of temperature, we get different answers for each scale. I just had another brainfart about the topic itself. Say, one of the partners here starts manipulating the other one using his/her sexual desire. Since men tend to demand more sex in a relationship, let's just say the wife manipulates the husband by starving him of sex and making him do things so that he could get a chance with her. This is obviously an unwanted situation. The illegality of marital rape aggravates it. I'm not saying the husband should rape her but the very fact that this illegality tells the wife that she can refuse as much as she wants can be quite dangerous. Theoretically, divorce seems to be the issue. But realistically, the first snorlax in the way is the thing called 'Love' and the second one can be children, finances, or anything else. How would we resolve this? EDIT: I asked a friend the first question and he said, 'Pessimists use soap; optimists use shampoo'. |
TranceNov 30, 2016 4:28 AM
Lahance said: ^Have a serious chat with your partner, take a break from them, go to a marriage counselor, divorce. Basically, the manipulated party loses everything. That's a marvelous solution. |
Lahance said: @Trance Prenuptial/Postnuptial agreements are a thing. If you wish to stay in an abusive and unsatisfying relationship, be my guest. The point here is to avoid this situation from even developing. Because once it does develop, then the solution is clearer: The manipulated has to lose more. |
Trance said: let's just say the wife manipulates the husband by starving him of sex and making him do things so that he could get a chance with her. Well, if the sex was good, I'm pretty sure the wife wouldn't troll him. maybe that husband should think about her pleasure once in a while instead of just busting his nut? |
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| Think of this OP. Husband always beat his wife everyday, the wife have lots of bruises,wounds, feeling weak and in pain, then suddenly that husband wanted to have sex but the wife doesn't feel like it, she's upset, sad and again in pain and so the husband get angry and push her on the bed undress her and force himself on her. Do you think that is right? And there are days when you just don't feel like it, especially when there's something bothering you. A normal husband will understand that and bear with it,because he RESPECT his wife. Now, if a husband forced himself on his wife, even though she doesn't like it, what do you think she will feel? she'll feel humiliated, you must remember...RESPECT is very important in a relationship, especially to a married couple. Forcing yourself to your wife, means you have no respect to her as a human, as a woman and as a person whom you made a vowed with. |
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Clebardman said: Trance said: let's just say the wife manipulates the husband by starving him of sex and making him do things so that he could get a chance with her. Well, if the sex was good, I'm pretty sure the wife wouldn't troll him. maybe that husband should think about her pleasure once in a while instead of just busting his nut? One partner can manipulate the other even with good sex. There are plenty cases of manipulation. And the illegality of marital rape can be a contributor to those cases. Lux_Lucis said: Trance said: - At first I was mindblown, but then I realized that you can exploit the phrasing to answer: Twice as cold as it is today. If we talk in terms of temperature, we get different answers for each scale. ... > Put some water outside and see how fast it gets covered by frost. (> Divide the result by 2). > Tomorrow it'll be as cold as it'll take to get the same result in half the time. You're also flexible and capable of self sustenance. Now you're just inventing a new scale (time) to measure temperature. This is cheating. Besides, the unit-conversion method is faster so boo hoo! B-b-butt ass! |
| Those words don't go together, that's whole propose of marriage, wtf people are retards. |
JonyJC said: So if some random homosexual dude on the street were to propose that he rapes you that would automatically make you his gay husband and also mean that you would have to go through a divorce for him to stop raping you?Those words don't go together, that's whole propose of marriage, wtf people are retards. WFT |
Comic_SansNov 30, 2016 11:18 AM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Lux_Lucis said: Trance said: Now you're just inventing a new scale (time) to measure temperature. This is cheating. Besides, the unit-conversion method is faster so boo hoo! B-b-butt ass! The limits of shit IQ. Can convert, can't invent. What happens when you encounter a situation where you have no alternative scales? You bail? The limits of being a perceptive thinker. Can think of all kinds of solutions except the most efficient one. I can redefine my scale so as to give it a non-zero value at 0. |
Lux_Lucis said: Now, now, he did, after all, writeYou're misunderstanding Jony. He meant that marriage is similar to driving license. You have license you can drive legally (= you're married you can rape legally). Driving with no license will not result in the spontaneous appearance of license in your wallet and an act of gay rape won't bind the couple with a marriage pact. That's whole propose of marriage, wtf people are retards. which I interpreted as "proposal of marriage", meaning that according to him, "proposal of marriage" is synonymous with "proposal of rape" and that if a gay dude were to propose to rape him on the street, that would automatically make them two married – no matter what said user's opinion on same sex marriage may be – and mean that he would have to go through a divorce if he wanted to end the marriage/rape. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
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