If you liked or Not hated the ending let's talk cuz I too.....

Jun 7, 2025 2:58 PM

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Lmao I will still tell you why I hated the ending here.

It's not because of some moral issues or whatever else most people have a hate boner for, its because the story did fuck all to build up to such an ending properly, and it was just an ass-pull.

If the author did the same ending, but actually spent at least 10-20 chapters properly building out the story for it to make sense, it would have been a good ending.

But the author just said yolo, and dropped this right at the end - derailing the entire vibe

Jun 7, 2025 4:49 PM

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BirdyTheMighty said:
Lmao I will still tell you why I hated the ending here.

It's not because of some moral issues or whatever else most people have a hate boner for, its because the story did fuck all to build up to such an ending properly, and it was just an ass-pull.

If the author did the same ending, but actually spent at least 10-20 chapters properly building out the story for it to make sense, it would have been a good ending.

But the author just said yolo, and dropped this right at the end - derailing the entire vibe

Well, I do think that the build up was enough. Maybe everyone with their own pov has something to play here. But I also agree that the author left some things for us to imagine.

But it's refreshing to see someone say they didn't like it because they felt it was rushed not because it didn't go with their moral values. Thank you for commenting.

Jun 7, 2025 8:07 PM

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Nah, no way. I went into this manga knowing the ending but thinking maybe, just maybe the author could make it make sense. He practically wiped her butt taking care of her when she was a child. That was just too much to be comfortable with that ending even if it was hinted at.

Jun 8, 2025 5:41 AM

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The problem is that the moral of the story is "It's ok to marry your legal guardian if you aren't blood related! Thank God it turned out that you weren't blood related, otherwise it would have been unacceptable and morally wrong! I hate things that are morally wrong, but there's nothing wrong with marrying your legal guardian if you aren't blood related!". This is dumb.

If only Daikichi told Rin "Hey Rin, you're just a dumb and hormonal teenager! You don't really want to marry me. Get your shit straight and find someone you really like that isn't your legal guardian.", it could have been a great ending.

Jun 8, 2025 3:22 PM

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Nirinbo said:
The problem is that the moral of the story is "It's ok to marry your legal guardian if you aren't blood related! Thank God it turned out that you weren't blood related, otherwise it would have been unacceptable and morally wrong! I hate things that are morally wrong, but there's nothing wrong with marrying your legal guardian if you aren't blood related!". This is dumb.

If only Daikichi told Rin "Hey Rin, you're just a dumb and hormonal teenager! You don't really want to marry me. Get your shit straight and find someone you really like that isn't your legal guardian.", it could have been a great ending.

It all boils down to our own moral values. To some the ending was ok. Maybe a little weird but ok. There's actually nothing wrong with it other than you feeling it's dumb or wrong. It's the same thing as the "age gap" thing. Even if it's between two proper adults people just "feels" that it's wrong and voice against it.

And I get what you are saying. It's a story you know. Every story can't be the same. Maybe you will like "After the Rain" anime/manga. I don't want to say anything more. To not spoil it.

And one more thing, It wasn't just Rin. At the end Daikichi also understood his feelings. He understood what or who he actually needs. He stopped lying to himself and accepted his own feelings.

Jun 8, 2025 4:30 PM

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I think the question should be “are you into incest” (no, them being non-blood related doesn’t make this any less incestish) and “could you fetishize this to the degree of defending the ruination of the entire story which you have read so lovingly for so long?”.
Lets get our facts straight, the author could have ended with just her visiting his grave with her family showing how happy and grateful she is for raising her or her marrying and him living peacefully in an old traditional house playing with his grandchildren, her kids, or even a fucking tragic end where she dies and the author focusing on the loss of a parents kid giving the manga a bigger turn and making it more “deep”.
But for some godly reason he just decided to end it by making him marry his kid (no, him not being her biological father doesnt make him any less of a fatherish figure) which i suspect only done so that he would take some attention, even if a bad one. And him trying to make the end more legitimate by suddenly, abruptly and never go back again on this matter, making them non blood-related only makes my suspicion more legitimate, since as the author and a human being with more than 2 brain cells he should have known this wouldnt make their relationship morw legimitate and would only stir more up the controversy, even in fucking japan.

Jun 8, 2025 11:40 PM

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Arcura said:
I think the question should be “are you into incest” (no, them being non-blood related doesn’t make this any less incestish) and “could you fetishize this to the degree of defending the ruination of the entire story which you have read so lovingly for so long?”.
Lets get our facts straight, the author could have ended with just her visiting his grave with her family showing how happy and grateful she is for raising her or her marrying and him living peacefully in an old traditional house playing with his grandchildren, her kids, or even a fucking tragic end where she dies and the author focusing on the loss of a parents kid giving the manga a bigger turn and making it more “deep”.
But for some godly reason he just decided to end it by making him marry his kid (no, him not being her biological father doesnt make him any less of a fatherish figure) which i suspect only done so that he would take some attention, even if a bad one. And him trying to make the end more legitimate by suddenly, abruptly and never go back again on this matter, making them non blood-related only makes my suspicion more legitimate, since as the author and a human being with more than 2 brain cells he should have known this wouldnt make their relationship morw legimitate and would only stir more up the controversy, even in fucking japan.

Again your "feeling" like this is incest doesn't make it incest. You haven't read the original post. None of them saw each other as a daughter or father. It's the audience who saw them as one.

I personally prefer a different ending than a common ending made to please the audience.

And the author is a woman.

Jun 9, 2025 3:52 AM

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Nirinbo said:
The problem is that the moral of the story is "It's ok to marry your legal guardian if you aren't blood related! Thank God it turned out that you weren't blood related, otherwise it would have been unacceptable and morally wrong! I hate things that are morally wrong, but there's nothing wrong with marrying your legal guardian if you aren't blood related!". This is dumb.

If only Daikichi told Rin "Hey Rin, you're just a dumb and hormonal teenager! You don't really want to marry me. Get your shit straight and find someone you really like that isn't your legal guardian.", it could have been a great ending.

It all boils down to our own moral values. To some the ending was ok. Maybe a little weird but ok. There's actually nothing wrong with it other than you feeling it's dumb or wrong. It's the same thing as the "age gap" thing. Even if it's between two proper adults people just "feels" that it's wrong and voice against it.

And I get what you are saying. It's a story you know. Every story can't be the same. Maybe you will like "After the Rain" anime/manga. I don't want to say anything more. To not spoil it.

And one more thing, It wasn't just Rin. At the end Daikichi also understood his feelings. He understood what or who he actually needs. He stopped lying to himself and accepted his own feelings.

Sch4n said:
Maybe you will like "After the Rain" anime/manga. I don't want to say anything more. To not spoil it.

I watched After the Rain and I liked it, but don't get me wrong: I'm not against controversial stuff. I even like it when the work is aware of being fucked up, not so much when the controversial stuff is portrayed as a good thing.

For example,

Jun 10, 2025 11:29 AM

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Nirinbo said:

Sch4n said:
Maybe you will like "After the Rain" anime/manga. I don't want to say anything more. To not spoil it.

I watched After the Rain and I liked it, but don't get me wrong: I'm not against controversial stuff. I even like it when the work is aware of being fucked up, not so much when the controversial stuff is portrayed as a good thing.

For example,

I understand.....

Jun 10, 2025 12:08 PM

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It's been nearly 15 years and the only thing I remember is that the ending was the only good thing about this story.

Jun 11, 2025 2:26 AM

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TransferUser said:
It's been nearly 15 years and the only thing I remember is that the ending was the only good thing about this story.

Damn bro out here single handedly ensuring the balance of nature.

Jun 30, 2025 4:27 AM

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Honestly, the ending didn't bother me either. Mainly because when I read it I was immersed and felt with the characters - I didn't read it from some kind of meta-level of "How would society look upon it?", "Is this taboo?" or "Does it conflict with my personal morals?" In that moment I wanted the characters to be happy. I wanted Rin to be happy.

Also I couldn't stand Kouki. Even before the time skip he wasn't a viable pairing for Rin. He was always far too immature compared to her.

As for Daikichi - before the time skip I would have expected him to get together with Kouki's mom. They certainly had some chemistry. But that sadly didn't pan out. And after the time skip when Rin confessed to him it kinda made sense that he struggled but in the end came around and accepted her feelings. It fell squarely in line with his previous behavior - of always sacrifcing for her and prioritizing her happiness over anything else and in this case prioritizing it over his own doubts and misgivings.

P.S.: Reading some of the other replies - I personally find it kinda demeaning towards someone's feelings to just disregard them completely as "You're just hormonal." As if you're feelings are not valid until they get the stamp of approval of someone who isn't involved in the relationship. And intentional or not - it kind of mirrors sentiments women often see themself confronted with where their feelings or perspectives are disregarded as not valid. So it kind of doesn't sit right with me.

Jul 6, 2025 3:52 AM

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Asturaetus said:
Honestly, the ending didn't bother me either. Mainly because when I read it I was immersed and felt with the characters - I didn't read it from some kind of meta-level of "How would society look upon it?", "Is this taboo?" or "Does it conflict with my personal morals?" In that moment I wanted the characters to be happy. I wanted Rin to be happy.

Also I couldn't stand Kouki. Even before the time skip he wasn't a viable pairing for Rin. He was always far too immature compared to her.

As for Daikichi - before the time skip I would have expected him to get together with Kouki's mom. They certainly had some chemistry. But that sadly didn't pan out. And after the time skip when Rin confessed to him it kinda made sense that he struggled but in the end came around and accepted her feelings. It fell squarely in line with his previous behavior - of always sacrifcing for her and prioritizing her happiness over anything else and in this case prioritizing it over his own doubts and misgivings.

P.S.: Reading some of the other replies - I personally find it kinda demeaning towards someone's feelings to just disregard them completely as "You're just hormonal." As if you're feelings are not valid until they get the stamp of approval of someone who isn't involved in the relationship. And intentional or not - it kind of mirrors sentiments women often see themself confronted with where their feelings or perspectives are disregarded as not valid. So it kind of doesn't sit right with me.

I feel you brother.

Apr 12, 9:39 PM

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I went into it thinking I wouldn't like it because everyone spoils it.
But the truth is I ended up loving the ending and Daikichis character.
He sacrificed a lot of his life, simply because he saw a little girl crying and abandoned.
They didn't even know each other.
To me he was a genuine hero and I totally understand why Rin fell for him later on too.
The sense of security was unmatched and he was tthe only person on the planet to protect her.
Just like she said in the last chapter, she was happy and led a happy life and it was ALL thanks to him.

Apr 20, 1:03 AM

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Shidoteki said:
I went into it thinking I wouldn't like it because everyone spoils it.
But the truth is I ended up loving the ending and Daikichis character.
He sacrificed a lot of his life, simply because he saw a little girl crying and abandoned.
They didn't even know each other.
To me he was a genuine hero and I totally understand why Rin fell for him later on too.
The sense of security was unmatched and he was tthe only person on the planet to protect her.
Just like she said in the last chapter, she was happy and led a happy life and it was ALL thanks to him.

🤝ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ

Apr 30, 12:42 AM

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The ending is absolutely atrocious, and I see no way to defend it.

Yeah it's technically true that Rin doesn't technically consider him her father, but that's not nearly enough to validate it. He still raises her from early childhood, he makes life decisions as her legal guardian and is for all intents and purposes her adoptive father. It doesn't matter what Rin considers Daikichi to be, he's her defacto parent. He rearranges his own life around raising Rin, worrying about her education, health, life, future, hobbies. The role he has in Rin's life is clearly parental. Even if their relationship is complicated, having that responsibility means that Daikichi treated Rin as her daughter. Even if it turns out that they're not blood-related, it doesn't remove the fact that he raised her.

It's not made any better whether or not Daikichi had romantic feelings before. The fact that a parental bond can later evolve into a romantical is, besides everything else about it, exactly what's disturbing about it. That dynamic doesn't just disappear because they didn't have intentions. Trying to strip the parental relationship and make it seem romantic is a big red flag. Understandably, the anime omitted this. And subsequently made it 1,000,000x better. So when people come around to find out what happened in the manga, it makes sense that they'd hate it, because it flips the whole script into something creepy, weird and unacceptable.

The problem isn't preference, because the audience knows what their relationship is. Reducing it to personal preference is downplaying how horrifying it actually is. ''Just because you feel like it's wrong, doesn't make it wrong.'' No, it is wrong. And it's made even creepier by a handwavy explanation that they're not actually blood-related that gets included last second. As if it's actively trying to validate something inappropriate. It's horrible.

May 4, 9:09 PM

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The ending is absolutely atrocious, and I see no way to defend it.

Yeah it's technically true that Rin doesn't technically consider him her father, but that's not nearly enough to validate it. He still raises her from early childhood, he makes life decisions as her legal guardian and is for all intents and purposes her adoptive father. It doesn't matter what Rin considers Daikichi to be, he's her defacto parent. He rearranges his own life around raising Rin, worrying about her education, health, life, future, hobbies. The role he has in Rin's life is clearly parental. Even if their relationship is complicated, having that responsibility means that Daikichi treated Rin as her daughter. Even if it turns out that they're not blood-related, it doesn't remove the fact that he raised her.

It's not made any better whether or not Daikichi had romantic feelings before. The fact that a parental bond can later evolve into a romantical is, besides everything else about it, exactly what's disturbing about it. That dynamic doesn't just disappear because they didn't have intentions. Trying to strip the parental relationship and make it seem romantic is a big red flag. Understandably, the anime omitted this. And subsequently made it 1,000,000x better. So when people come around to find out what happened in the manga, it makes sense that they'd hate it, because it flips the whole script into something creepy, weird and unacceptable.

The problem isn't preference, because the audience knows what their relationship is. Reducing it to personal preference is downplaying how horrifying it actually is. ''Just because you feel like it's wrong, doesn't make it wrong.'' No, it is wrong. And it's made even creepier by a handwavy explanation that they're not actually blood-related that gets included last second. As if it's actively trying to validate something inappropriate. It's horrible.

@daft_mariner whats creepier here are the comments made by some (pedophiles) in this discussion like "oh rin is just mature for her age" or just plain egging on the grooming being portrayed by that fuckass ending
minors have crushes on adults all the time and its still so weird to me that a legal guardian since the age of 6 still considers reciprocating the feelings of a teenager he raised since
daikichi is weird
people who like the ending is weird
the author is weird

Jun 20, 1:38 PM

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The ending is absolutely atrocious, and I see no way to defend it.

Yeah it's technically true that Rin doesn't technically consider him her father, but that's not nearly enough to validate it. He still raises her from early childhood, he makes life decisions as her legal guardian and is for all intents and purposes her adoptive father. It doesn't matter what Rin considers Daikichi to be, he's her defacto parent. He rearranges his own life around raising Rin, worrying about her education, health, life, future, hobbies. The role he has in Rin's life is clearly parental. Even if their relationship is complicated, having that responsibility means that Daikichi treated Rin as her daughter. Even if it turns out that they're not blood-related, it doesn't remove the fact that he raised her.

It's not made any better whether or not Daikichi had romantic feelings before. The fact that a parental bond can later evolve into a romantical is, besides everything else about it, exactly what's disturbing about it. That dynamic doesn't just disappear because they didn't have intentions. Trying to strip the parental relationship and make it seem romantic is a big red flag. Understandably, the anime omitted this. And subsequently made it 1,000,000x better. So when people come around to find out what happened in the manga, it makes sense that they'd hate it, because it flips the whole script into something creepy, weird and unacceptable.

The problem isn't preference, because the audience knows what their relationship is. Reducing it to personal preference is downplaying how horrifying it actually is. ''Just because you feel like it's wrong, doesn't make it wrong.'' No, it is wrong. And it's made even creepier by a handwavy explanation that they're not actually blood-related that gets included last second. As if it's actively trying to validate something inappropriate. It's horrible.

@daft_mariner It's a different culture. Maybe father is muslim.

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