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| Maybe because the guy was the other monster/proxy thingy that popped into Real's apartment? :P |
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| Very good episode. I guess the guy being chased is the other proxy who was in Re-l's apartment the other night. |
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| Vincent's expression is quite funny sometimes lol! |
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| Vincent was kind of mysterious from the start. Maybe he's "awakened" as was written on her mirror. |
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| I'm not understanding anything but it's interesting XD |
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Lakitu said: I love the brainwashing :P Everyone got to consume more :-) Me too, they really develop the feeling that a 'civilization' exists in Ergo Proxy. It's convincing |
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| That was one hc massacre |
| The lady with the baby in the stroller traveling with child AutoReiv in the escalator is Raul's wife right? I think she was the one that Kristeva reminded Raul earlier in the episode that he had to "meet". Why did Raul not do anything when the Proxy who was chasing Vincent was killing and maiming people and AutoReivs around them? He even saw what happened to his wife and child, why did he just stand there? It was Kristeva who kept shaking him. Are the people of Romdo that insensitive or are they just devoid of emotion, incapable of any feelings? |
| "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
Leibstandarte said: The lady with the baby in the stroller traveling with child AutoReiv in the escalator is Raul's wife right? I think she was the one that Kristeva reminded Raul earlier in the episode that he had to "meet". Why did Raul not do anything when the Proxy who was chasing Vincent was killing and maiming people and AutoReivs around them? He even saw what happened to his wife and child, why did he just stand there? It was Kristeva who kept shaking him. Are the people of Romdo that insensitive or are they just devoid of emotion, incapable of any feelings? they probably think of humans as disposable - i think someone in the last ep mentioned something like that. that's probably why he didn't do anything, that or he was frozen with fear. and now its becoming full of theories pointing towards conspiracy. I am really starting to like this series. and the ending song only helps. (lol like how the name of the ed song matches one theme of the anime) |
enkilMay 27, 2009 2:54 AM
| After re-watching it again, I've to say that it was SHOCK on Raul's part that's why he "froze" on the spot when he saw his wife and child murdered. Kristeva's shaking him and calling his attention convinced me that he was so shocked. I also assume that life in Romdeau is so sterile and uneventful that such a crime was too much for a person to handle. My clue were also the other people in the mall, few ran as the Proxy rampaged through them. |
| "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
| I'm definitely loving the mystery aspect so far, I haven't really watched enough mystery anime. Of course, the violence was epic but the added intrigue of what Proxy actually is makes it all the more awesome. |
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kie_ said: me too lolI'm not understanding anything but it's interesting XD btw, poor kid and woman D: and the ED song is catchy, wow o_o |
| Man am i loving this show. The brainwashing, iggy being controlled, the Bureaux....it's all coming out well. |
| It would make sense that Vincent was the other Proxy that came in and saved her, the night before. But im not sure. I wonder whats going to happen now. Also that poor baby & lady got killed, that sucked. v_v |
ShinobiCJOct 31, 2010 12:13 AM
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| I guessed right!(?)The other PROXY is Vincent! Poor baby and lady D: I am loving this, dark, mysterious atmosphere! |
imchairmanm said: You've gotta love the Odessa step sequence. The stroller falling down the stairs is straight out of the most famous scene from Sergei Eisenstein's 1925 film "Battleship Potemkin". It's always funny to see homages like that in anime. Well for me it was "The Untouchables" because I haven't seen "Battleship Potemkin" yet. Since you mentioned it and I got curious, I did a little web digging and it seems "The Untouchables" stairs scene (and among other films to my surprise) is also homage to the Odessa step sequence from "Battleship Potemkin". Something new everyday. :D |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
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| It completely reminds me of i-robot/minority report. I hope its much better :) |
| Wakka Wakka Boom Boom. |
| This was a really hardcore episode, and the story is so fucked-up, in the good sense! I'm Confused at this point, but at the same time, interested. |
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kie_ said: I'm not understanding anything but it's interesting XD I decided to give the English dub a try. Given that this show is so visually driven, it can be very tough to follow along with subtitles. I found the dub to be much easier to follow and helped me enjoy it much more. |
| This anime confuses me, the story is starting off weird but well it's interesting! |
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| Another great episode. Killing people like that even infants means serious business. |
| Awesome animation..Understood a little more about the first one...This Anime gonna be awesome..It sure as hell ain't gonna be dropped |
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| It's obvious as to who the Proxy really is. And the baby is not exactly their child either. I remember is was said to be sent from the government, hmm... |
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| Well the Proxy did a good number on those people. A rather brutal episode. |
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ownosourus said: Well the Proxy did a good number on those people. A rather brutal episode. Very brutal indeed O_O the proxy used the people to jump off of them to accelerate or something...and Raul's wife and "child" died, and I guess the child AutoReiv got infected with the virus. I can't believe he just stood there and watched. I don't care if he was shocked, even afterwards he didn't show as much emotion as I thought he should have. All the conspiracy. Poor Re-l, it's tough for someone who is telling the truth yet everyone else doesn't believe it because fucking government is erasing every trace and trying to diagnose her with some kind of mental illness =_= And then that ending. What? Vincent? Just--I don't even know. But I'm loving this. |
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tingy said: ownosourus said: Well the Proxy did a good number on those people. A rather brutal episode. Very brutal indeed O_O the proxy used the people to jump off of them to accelerate or something...and Raul's wife and "child" died, and I guess the child AutoReiv got infected with the virus. I can't believe he just stood there and watched. I don't care if he was shocked, even afterwards he didn't show as much emotion as I thought he should have. All the conspiracy. Poor Re-l, it's tough for someone who is telling the truth yet everyone else doesn't believe it because fucking government is erasing every trace and trying to diagnose her with some kind of mental illness =_= And then that ending. What? Vincent? Just--I don't even know. But I'm loving this. It wasn't that Raul was heartless, it was his job to remain calm and make a plan to secure the area and keep people safe. People do this in real life. If a person in a position like that were to freak out over their families death while a crises is still active then it would vent off to everyone else that the leader has lost all hope and the world is in anarchy.(I hope I explained that best) This is such a great series. |
BrandonMay 8, 2017 11:01 AM
| Since Re-l found the necklace at her house I wonder if Vincent is the other Proxy |
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| This was a clarifying episode, indeed xD I also think that Vicent might be other Proxy and I wonder why Ergo Proxy and Lil cried when they saw each other |
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| Alright episode, this is making me sleepy though |
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| Great episode. I really like the setting, the story and the characters. And I love the homage to Battleship Potiemkin/The Untouchables with the steps sequence. On the downside, the animation can be pretty uneven at times. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| My guess is that proxies (or proxys) are somewhat "gods" for the autoreivs, thats why that little girl was praying while her "mother" got massacred. |
| so looking like vincent is the other proxy? still have loads of questions and his wife dying and the baby was horrible wasn't sure why he was just stood there until the autoreiv started shaking him i assume he was in shock? anyway even though im confused as hell i am enjoying so far nice action and atmosphere, and best of all plot which i know will flesh out and (hopefully) give me answers as we go along |
| For some reason, I really like Vincent, even though I've only watched two episodes. |
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| Brutal . . . Anyways I'm looking forward to the next episode, I kind of guessed that Vincent was putting on some "weak guy" front . . . I mean his name is Vincent Law . . . |
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| I am seriously worried about those pedestrian walkways that seem to be about 3-4 metres across and have no hand-rail and just a drop off the edge. Those are frightening. That rampage was absolutely nuts, and Re-I is having some problems with her head. Let's see how this show pans out! |
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
puedjies said: Lakitu said: I love the brainwashing :P Everyone got to consume more :-) Me too, they really develop the feeling that a 'civilization' exists in Ergo Proxy. It's convincing even though its so fucked up |
| "Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
| so the woman and child that got killed , are they Raul's family? |
| "Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
| So much evidence supporting my theory that Vincent is one of the proxy that were in Re-l's apartment , there is the fact that the proxy that was in close quarters with Re-l touched her lips gently showing some sort of affection and there is also the idea that the other proxy was going to embrace him at the end of this episode as he had no escape , What I also found interesting was that when Re-l was looking the remains at the end in that place she had stepped on and broke a glass and also saw her reflection in broken glass , in Greek lore all that is a sign of her demise , could this really be the case? I hope not , I have grown to love her character and hope to see alot more of her , I LOVE YOU RE-L MAYER! |
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